[8卦]尼歌基曼十年婚姻原来没有发生过

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[8卦]尼歌基曼十年婚姻原来没有发生过

Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:01

著名影星尼歌基曼日前再婚,婚前突然说原来还是对汤告鲁司念念不忘(白某案:念念不忘瞎再什么婚啊),盛大婚礼于天主教礼堂进行。广大天主教徒就说了,天主教堂婚礼,一人只让办一次,再婚坚决不让办,咋的她就可以进行再婚婚礼?天主教堂管事儿的就说了,她的十年婚姻,在天主教会眼中,没有发生过。 :mrgreen:
bbc报道。bbc也挺8。 :mrgreen:
How did Nicole Kidman re-marry in a Catholic church?
WHO, WHAT, WHY?
The Magazine answers...


The bride arriving at St Patrick's College in Sydney
How did Nicole Kidman, one-time spouse of Tom Cruise, get re-married in a Catholic church if she didn't have an annulment? Clue: she wasn't actually married before.

Nicole Kidman's wedding to country singer Keith Urban in Sydney at the weekend drew plenty of media attention.

But some Catholics will have looked on perplexed at how the former bride of actor Tom Cruise managed to tie the knot for a second time, in a Catholic church.

It was widely reported in the run up to the weekend wedding that Ms Kidman had received an annulment for her previous marriage - the Catholic Church's procedure for allowing a follower to wed again.

Father Paul Coleman, who conducted the latest nuptials, was said to have advised the Oscar-winning actress on the dissolution.

In fact, Kidman didn't need an annulment for one simple reason: in the eyes of the Catholic Church her 10-year union with Tom Cruise, a renowned Scientologist, never happened.


WHO, WHAT, WHY?

A feature to the BBC News Magazine - aiming to answer some of the questions behind the headlines
The original wedding was performed in the Church of Scientology and wasn't recognised by the Catholic faith.

The divorce granted to the couple in 2001 was a legal rather than religious procedure for Kidman.

So Kidman would only have had to have obtained a licence from the Catholic Church saying that she was legally free to marry and that the Church had not recognised her first marriage.

Not recognised

"The Catholic Church sets down requirements to have a valid Catholic marriage. In the case of Nicole's first marriage, those requirements were not fulfilled," said Father Coleman, who married Kidman and Urban.


The Vatican is unhappy about annulment rates in the US
Kidman had dabbled with Scientology and Father Coleman talked of her Catholic wedding in terms of a spiritual homecoming.

Annulment is, nevertheless, controversial in some Catholic circles. How can the Church rule a marriage never really happened, especially if it's been a long one and generated children?

The Catholic Church began to make annulments easier to get in the 1970s, adding a category of "psychological grounds", which includes "lack of due discretion" - in other words, an applicant might claim they'd not fully appreciated the responsibilities of marriage.

Today, this category - which also takes in "psychological incapacity assuming the obligations" - is the main grounds upon which annulments are granted.

Complex

Lack of due discretion centres on the question of what it is that couples are consenting to when they agree to marry.

Priests say considering a petition for annulment on such grounds is very complex - and requests for annulments are often turned down (in which case an applicant cannot remarry in a Catholic church).

While many in the Church argue priests should be trying to discern a "grave" lack of discretion, some argue that priests, particularly those in the US, are too easy.

According to the Holy See, 43,153 straightforward annulments were granted worldwide, almost 29,000 of which were issued in north America in 2003. This compares with 511 in Great Britain and 304 across Ireland. Many of these were later overturned by the Vatican.

Rome has long been concerned that priests in the US are handing out too many annulments.

The Vatican argues that American culture demands maximum self-fulfilment and that includes what can be expected from a marriage. As a result, more annulments are granted in the US, leaving Rome worried that the Americans are, essentially, letting divorce in through the back door.

For Kidman, however, such difficult questions never needed to be answered.
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:04

一笔勾销啊 :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 10:06

So Kidman would only have had to have obtained a licence from the Catholic Church saying that she was legally free to marry and that the Church had not recognised her first marriage.
BBC could have used a better editor... 8)

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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:08

I was going to say u do not see such grammer-correct article anywhere in the us.
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:11

路透社也很无聊的前个礼拜报道北京的一对夫妻女的使剑的那天先生没有给他做饭她愤怒之下用剑指住其胸口不幸脚下一滑做了寡妇 :huh:
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:12

what?! seriously?
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:14

yeah, our local news radio station even broadcasted such news :mrgreen:
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:17

wah, my local news is all about what happened in DC.........
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:18

Here, here

June 21, 2006

Wife charged in sword killing


BEIJING -- A Chinese woman has been charged with accidentally killing her husband with a sword after he refused to make her dinner, Shanghai Daily reported yesterday.


Tang Xiaowan, 25, who has been practising swordsmanship since she was young, had often held her husband at the point of a sword and forced him to carry out her demands, police said. On March 3, the sword slipped, fatally stabbing her husband.
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:20

哈哈哈,果汁四溅四溅,一雪亚洲女人低眉顺眼的耻辱形象 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:22

自从那个新闻出来以后我的拳套突然没了踪影 :mrgreen:
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:32

拳套收起来干哈?应该送该倒霉男剑鞘才对。
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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 10:40

师娘 :mrgreen:
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 10:45

1?您老原来在家也hold师娘at fistpoint么? :mrgreen:
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Post by danni » 2006-06-26 10:56

Jun wrote:
So Kidman would only have had to have obtained a licence from the Catholic Church saying that she was legally free to marry and that the Church had not recognised her first marriage.
BBC could have used a better editor... 8)
虚拟人物Joey说过一句话I'm gonna get it get going(大概).... :shock: 罗嗦得一塌糊涂。

有张图片不知道大家看了没有,出来大半个月了。我小人家今天才看到。不禁非常没见过世面地浑身一颤。
新生宝贝 Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt的奶嘴。(奶嘴厂商赠送,AJ没这么bling)
正是所谓的白金镶钻,一共279颗。
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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 11:03

It is sufficient to say:

So Kidman would only have had to obtain a license...

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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 11:06

Jun, 简直是Dr Hannibal Lecter的面罩的豪华版 :mrgreen: 用它喝西北风我想也是其乐融融的 :f20:
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Post by karen » 2006-06-26 11:10

花差花差小将军 wrote:Here, here


Tang Xiaowan, 25, who has been practising swordsmanship since she was young, had often held her husband at the point of a sword and forced him to carry out her demands, police said. On March 3, the sword slipped, fatally stabbing her husband.
I don't get it, she practiced with a real, sharpened sword? :shock: This is like something out of Ally McBeal!

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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 11:14

I don't know for sure. Apparently it's sharp enough to kill her hubby. Maybe some 家传倚天宝剑
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 11:17

Jun wrote:It is sufficient to say:

So Kidman would only have had to obtain a license...
叫真儿:似乎原句写法表示伊已经拿到license了,而jun你的写法没有这个暗示。 :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 11:18

I am convinced that she killed him with criminal intent and only made up the "slipping" and "accidental" part to cover her own ...

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Post by Elysees » 2006-06-26 11:20

danni wrote: 正是所谓的白金镶钻,一共279颗。
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这个,我怀疑地说,对小孩来说太重了吧 :roll:

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Post by karen » 2006-06-26 11:28

这太逗了,伊活生生现代版侠女一粒哇。 :f20: 武侠小说里不总是啥靓女与某个靓仔比个剑调个情的嘛。 只可怜这粒老公,一顿饭不做就当了老婆的剑下鬼。

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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 11:31

Talk about Jolie, did you guys see the CNN program Anderson Cooper 360 last week? Cooper and Jolie, 2 ridiculously good-looking and privileged and rich celebrities sitting together and chatting about saving Africa as if this was some kind of an exclusive social club and they were exchanging gossips about a friend's new trophy wife or something.

"Isn't that depressing? Wasn't it sad to see those orphans?"

"I---know---. I had to pretend I was writing on my pad (so that they didn't see me cry)."

Really weird.

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Post by 花差花差小将军 » 2006-06-26 11:46

Did you see him on Jon Stewart's Daily News last week? Sitting next to Jon, AC seemed so dry and slow :mrgreen:
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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 11:48

he's pretty, but ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer? a cableless curious patron askes
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Post by karen » 2006-06-26 11:49

I used to like Jolie. I thought she was different, plus she is super hot. Now this celebrity political activism crap is really getting old. Especially the whole " I am saving Africa by selling my kid's photos" episode. That's so PTA, and by the way, who cares? Just shut the f88k up and be the movie stars like she is supposed to be.
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Post by Knowing » 2006-06-26 11:49

Jun wrote:Talk about Jolie, did you guys see the CNN program Anderson Cooper 360 last week? Cooper and Jolie, 2 ridiculously good-looking and privileged and rich celebrities sitting together and chatting about saving Africa as if this was some kind of an exclusive social club and they were exchanging gossips about a friend's new trophy wife or something.

"Isn't that depressing? Wasn't it sad to see those orphans?"

"I---know---. I had to pretend I was writing on my pad (so that they didn't see me cry)."

Really weird.
I missed the interview because I was busy celebrity spotting elsewhere :mrgreen: Ah, too bad Anderson Cooper is gay, otherwise they make even better couple than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by danni » 2006-06-26 11:58

Elysees wrote:
danni wrote: 正是所谓的白金镶钻,一共279颗。
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这个,我怀疑地说,对小孩来说太重了吧 :roll:
小孩儿没牙肯定咬不住,就算能用,恐怕也不到三天就变成外翻香肠嘴。
厂商送这个,也不符合AJ没事就往非洲跑的人道主义大师形象。
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Post by putaopi » 2006-06-26 12:00

“Ah, too bad Anderson Cooper is gay, otherwise they make even better couple than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. “

Yeah, Brat Pitt has no chic.

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Post by putaopi » 2006-06-26 12:03

karen wrote:I used to like Jolie. I thought she was different, plus she is super hot. Now this celebrity political activism crap is really getting old. Especially the whole " I am saving Africa by selling my kid's photos" episode. That's so PTA, and by the way, who cares? Just shut the f88k up and be the movie stars like she is supposed to be.
Didn't she make movies to save Africa? :roll:
I am curious what color her next adoption will be.

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Post by 小涵 » 2006-06-26 12:07

Knowing wrote:Ah, too bad Anderson Cooper is gay, otherwise they make even better couple than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
that's exactly what was on my mind when i saw the interview! :mrgreen:

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Post by danni » 2006-06-26 12:13

这个嘛,公众人物总是很有做秀嫌疑,好歹再怎么着,也是做了事情的。而且AJ等人无法避免流露出的“高人一等”的姿态并不是那么可人憎。光宣扬但是自己不出力的人比较伪善。
Modox&Zee, 被于他们不同肤色的人抚养长大,收养者还是热门话题人物,我对他们长大以后的心里很好奇。 :monkey001:

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Post by Knowing » 2006-06-26 12:17

花差花差小将军 wrote:Did you see him on Jon Stewart's Daily News last week? Sitting next to Jon, AC seemed so dry and slow :mrgreen:
Yes, AC might be dry, slow and dumb. But he is cute! Also you have to count in the fact that he is born rich, which pretty much is equivalent to a minor brain damage before 2 years old, so he has really turned out pretty well! //furiously defending my idol :mad:
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Post by 豪情 » 2006-06-26 12:21

If her marriage never happened, is she still entitled to half of Tom's money?

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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 12:36

She was never entitled to half of Tom Cruise's money, because he divorced her right before the 10-year mark was up. IIRC, California law mandates that 1 spouse gets half of the community property if they are married for 10 years (if they have no prenup?). That's why Cruise suddenly divorced her -- to dodge the legal blow on his money (which, no doubt, belongs to the church).

As for Anderson Cooper, he's not that dumb. Who can be as sharp as Jon Stewart? At least Stewart did not "kill" him like he did with the ex-Crossfire hosts. :lol: Most important, Cooper is sincere. He is full of genuine human compassion. He goes to the disaster areas and hug the babies, his eyes filled with tears. He the CNN version of Angelina Jolie with a softer heart!

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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 12:41

啊,原来他就是银发狐狸衰锅,我说呢。
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Post by Jun » 2006-06-26 14:07

Come to think of it, I would not be surprise if the marriage between Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, in the real sense of the word marriage, 十年婚姻没有发生过. The annulment may be entirely legitimate. :-P

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Post by tiffany » 2006-06-26 14:09

did u guys hear the rumor that katie holms acutually faked the pregenancy
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Post by Knowing » 2006-06-26 14:13

Jun wrote:Come to think of it, I would not be surprise if the marriage between Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, in the real sense of the word marriage, 十年婚姻没有发生过. The annulment may be entirely legitimate. :-P
I have heard from someone in Time Warner that Nicole is a lesbian. She has been with the same gf for over 10 years.
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Post by 豪情 » 2006-06-26 14:23

So her marriage to Urban isn't real, either?

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Post by Knowing » 2006-06-26 14:30

Not sure , you have to ask Urban ...well who cares...
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Post by 密斯张三 » 2006-06-26 16:21

"lack of due discretion" - in other words, an applicant might claim they'd not fully appreciated the responsibilities of marriage.

Today, this category - which also takes in "psychological incapacity assuming the obligations" - is the main grounds upon which annulments are granted.
这个借口简直太好用了

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Post by Elysees » 2006-06-26 18:57

tiffany wrote:did u guys hear the rumor that katie holms acutually faked the pregenancy
and that's why no one saw the baby up till now?

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